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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with international bestselling author of the “Orphan X” series, Gregg Hurwitz. They discuss the manufactured polarity within the United States, how bad actors and foreign powers are manipulating American thought, the shocking number of data points most people agree on, and Gregg’s newest work, a short film called “Ask An Iranian: The Truth About the Middle East” which showcases true accounts of the terror administered by the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Gregg Hurwitz is the New York Times #1 internationally bestselling author of 24 thrillers including the Orphan X series. His novels have won numerous literary awards and have been published in 33 languages. Gregg currently serves as the Co-President of International Thriller Writers (ITW). Additionally, he’s written screenplays and television scripts for many of the major studios and networks, comics for AWA (including the critically acclaimed anthology NewThink), DC, and Marvel, and poetry. Currently, Gregg is actively working against polarization in politics and culture. To that end, he’s penned op-eds for The Wall Street Journal, The Guardian, The Bulwark and others, and has produced several hundred commercials and creative content which have gotten several hundred million views on digital TV platforms. He also helped write the opening ceremony of the 2022 World Cup.

This episode was recorded on September 25th, 2024

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– Chapters –

(0:00) Coming up
(0:43) Intro
(3:04) A 32 year conversation
(5:34) US The Story – connecting meaning and disparate thinking
(7:06) What it means to be post partisan, how Hurwitz applies this thinking to anti-polarization efforts
(8:55) The dementing of the culture post October 7th
(12:43) Sociological and political studies show foreign influences behind manufactured polarization
(15:11) Two pessimistic outcomes – and how we reach the positive one
(18:00) Foreign psy-ops and the key demographics being targeted
(23:37) TikTok: small efforts can create mass rage and doubt
(27:26) The Islamic Republic is hated by most Iranians
(32:51) How our children’s brains are being programmed
(37:24) Ascendant antisemitism and the links to Russia, China, and Iran
(44:27) The hallmark of postmodernism
(48:24) Bias and grievance narratives across demographics, successful assimilation
(53:49) What the average swing voter looks like through data
(1:00:51) An image of bipartisan optimism, the DNC is stepping back from the far Left
(1:07:36) We need to remove pathology from politics, defending shared principles
(1:13:28) What 80 to 100 percent of Americans agree on, pushing the boundaries in a way that expands them
(1:21:45) Environmental agreement, starting with the right argument to come together
(1:23:43) What happened to our shared vision as Americans? Handling the fringe
(1:33:40) How we move to peace and unity
(1:38:17) A modern transformation in popular thought acknowledges a unifying vision
(1:40:40) What we can do today to rebuild our bridges, transparent algorithms
(1:46:41) Anonymity and the need of conscious regulation
(1:50:04) The difference between a referee and censor
(1:51:35) Pass PATA now!
(1:52:51) Free is the wrong value for online identities
(1:55:03) We must be careful with the immense opportunity available to us

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