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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down in-person with Derek from the “More Plates More Dates Podcast.” They discuss Derek’s journey into the fitness industry, how he became a main player in the “manosphere,” developing self motivation, effective ways to find a mentor, and how to recognize when the adventure of your life is calling.
Derek is the founder of the “More Plates More Dates” YouTube channel, where he discusses strategies to optimize your health and nutrition. He is also a co-founder of the preventative medicine company called Marek Health.
This episode was recorded on January 29th, 2024
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(0:00) Tour update 2024
(0:40) Coming up
(1:06) Intro
(2:51) Derek started the “More Plates More Dates” blog, which evolved into his YouTube channel and podcast
(5:21) Early advice from Victor Pride, the value of a like-minded mentor, staying in tune with new tech in order to grow an online viewership
(7:23) Derek’s need to write due to personal injury, how the manipulation of search algorithms has led to lapsed credibility even when fact-checked
(13:12) Feelings of greater calling, forming a covenant with the spirit that guides you
(15:48) The interplay of true calling and relative success
(18:28) Why Derek turned to writing, connections to the “Manosphere”
(20:11) Jocko Willink, acknowledging your capability for harm in order to evoke positive change in others
(21:54) Realizing what you’re supposed to write about, positioning yourself to avoid obstacles
(28:04) Balancing quality with the necessity of communication
(30:18) 2022 Elvis Biopic: how Presley paired a culturally suppressed music style with the emerging popularity of rock’n roll
(31:35) Respect for your audience needs to be aligned with the desire to broaden influence
(32:13) Be obsessed with your interests until you are the expert, insights on male stubbornness gained from the Future Authoring Program
(35:14) When abstract knowledge stacks on genuine expertise
(38:06) Feeling weak, using objective metrics to stay motivated against fatigue
(40:23) Tempering expertise for the communication of ideas to early zones of proximal development
(43:59) The Acton Academy’s philosophy on mentorships
(46:20) Positioning yourself as competent so a prospective mentor will be excited to say “yes”
(51:43) What working ten percent longer will do immediately for your paycheck, and long-term for your career
(54:48) How Derek weaponized early mornings, silence, and fasting to stay mentally dialed-in to his writing goals
(58:11) Outgrowing the 23-year-old mindset, underlying importance of symmetry and optimized health in sexual attraction
(1:01:26) How Derek grew to appreciate mental and cognitive health in addition to physical health
(1:04:45) The core attractor that is seldom taught to men
(1:07:40) How writing helps streamline the facilitation process of ideas
(1:11:08) Everything has gone spectacularly well when you can end it on a punchline, have a problem in mind you genuinely want to solve
(1:11:50) Market testing: the audience will tell you what they want
(1:12:43) From writing to video, hyper-accelerated exposure, and how the bottleneck effect comes into play for cross-platform content
(1:14:02) Aligning personal interest with broader necessity for understanding
(1:16:50) The feminine imagery in “Sleeping Beauty,” building fortitude against the harsh scrutiny of the dating market
(1:18:01) How Derek’s growth on YouTube led to multiple positive business ventures
(1:19:19) Plunging the depths, the symbolism of the essence of being as it appears in Moses’ encounter with the burning bush
(1:22:30) Reaching a point of expertise that allows for ease of growth and spontaneous innovation
(1:25:13) Proofing self-confidence against potential delusion and error
(1:29:46) How Marek Health prioritizes curative and preventive treatment over last-resort symptom suppression
(1:41:41) Death statistics among bodybuilders, Marek’s plans to tackle the root cause
(1:44:43) Holding on to calling and progressing toward your best potential
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